Comments on: Ignite Phoenix 4 – Recap and notes

By: How NOT to participate in trending convos | tdhurst

How NOT to participate in trending convos | tdhurst — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:00:22 +0000

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By: Russ Perry

Russ Perry — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:58:52 +0000

Jeff, what was the name of the organization you’re founding to support Ignite/podcamp/etc.? Great work last night. Blown away. La Bocca was a bit of a bummer place for networking, love their food though!

By: Howard

Howard — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:39:57 +0000

@Jon Rodis Jon,I'm perplexed by the characterization your presentation evidently has received. What I thought was lame was the "ignore the slides behind me" bit. But I didn't see it as a sales ploy (for the same reasons you have laid out). It may be a pie in the sky idea, maybe naive in my estimation, but then again lots of brainstorming ideas are and at least get some discussion going. I agree you brought up stuff in the true spirit of the event.

By: Ghost blog #2 – Ignite PHX « Katie Charland

Ghost blog #2 – Ignite PHX « Katie Charland — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:34:23 +0000

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By: Jon Rodis

Jon Rodis — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:27:45 +0000

I’d just like to apologize for my presentation on Tuesday night. The reaction has definitely shown me that deviating from the slides I submitted was a bad idea. I definitely didn’t intend to undermine people’s hard work, but I take people’s sense of the situation very seriously. I felt like I was acting within the rules because I was talking about the same subject I submitted: how to work outside current educational institutions. Also, because I was suggesting an idea for a non-profit organization–an idea that anyone could use to start their own for-profit or non-profit organization–I thought I was within the rules prohibiting sales pitches. Obviously, a lot of hard-working people who have been part of Ignite from the beginning disagree. Regarding ad-libbing…that I wasn’t really prepared to give the presentation I ultimately gave should suggest to people that this was a spur of the moment decision, rather than a ploy. I really just wanted to talk about something I found exciting in a way that other people might find exciting, too. Many harsh things have been said about my motives in presenting the way I did, and I take those comments very seriously, so I’d just like to explain my thought process leading up to my presentation:I was prepared to give a much more academic talk on the historical connection between the social context of work and the social context of education. At the end of this talk, I was planning on hinting at the idea I ultimately presented. After seeing Katie’s excellent presentation on social media in the classroom, I felt like I wanted to share the idea I had for a non-profit organization: One that would harness advertising revenue to sponsor user-generated micro-publishing houses that would provide educational content to users for free. The idea is present in for-profit forms like YouTube, eHow.com, etc. but the incentive mechanism for producers is much stronger if the site is administered by a non-profit. Another presentation, which introduced the concept of meta-entrepreneurship, or facilitating other people’s power through entrepreneurship, encouraged me to talk about the non-profit organization in question. I see it as an example of meta-entrepreneurship because it uses market mechanisms to give producers of content entry into the publishing market and students free access to education.In any event, when I was watching the other presentations on education, I felt like I was witnessing people describe real innovations. I felt it was appropriate to share one of my ideas that was directly related to the topic I had submitted: The Beginning of the End of Institutional Education. I took a risk by sharing this idea, which is fine. But the way I shared it was offensive to a lot of people. For that, I am really sorry. I wouldn’t do it again, and I’m sure I’ll never be able to present at Ignite events in the future. I will, however, continue to develop this idea in a non-proprietary fashion.Jon Rodis

By: Pamela Slim

Pamela Slim — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:36:55 +0000

I six-hand the emotion that Ignite rocked last night! I was amazed at the level of organization required to get everyone attended to and in their seats. The theater was amazing. I see the Tempe message botching as an opportunity for some good coaching about community and social media.Imagine how different it would have felt for us attendees to be welcomed from all parts of the *Phoenix Metro Area* to a beautiful venue in Tempe in the spirit of sharing and collaboration? To hear that even people like me who live so far out in East Mesa that we have to ride a horse once we get off the last stop of the light rail, are welcome as equals in the city of Tempe?Let’s see, does anyone know a really good social media consultant with a fantastic perspective on both? Say, one who, um, recently quit his job at Intel?

By: Jay Thompson

Jay Thompson — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:12:57 +0000

As one who had his car towed, I can attest to the extreme suckage factor of that incident.But let’s not let it detract from the event. Ignite Phoenix rocked. I suspect those of us that volunteered or attended can’t begin to imagine the effort Jeff and team put into organizing Ignite. They are to be commended!I think you should consider doing additional “karaoke” sessions. It was fabulous.

By: Preston Lee

Preston Lee — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:06:38 +0000

+1 on y’all volunteers kicking ass. Note on the towing thing…I lived/worked/schooled in the downtown Tempe area for years, and around Mill is notoriously unforgiving when it comes to ticketing and towing. The city has some legitimate reasons relating to the congestion/popularity of the area and ASU campus, but regardless, be aware that the towing companies get a commission for each vehicle they nab. If you’re “bending” any parking laws–even off of Mill Avenue–it’s the perfect storm of incentives to get your vehicle hauled away.

By: james

james — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:49:24 +0000

A few points:Jeff & team: You folks kick ass. I had great time, and I’m proud to have been a part of it.About the next location: The Tempe city sales pitch was sort of cute, but sort of annoying. We got it the first time, guys; time to get over the name “Ignite Phoenix”. I’d love to see a new location, not in Tempe, especially after the towing scam nonsense on Mill. But it’s hard to walk away from a good spot.La Bocca was fail. Hella noisy, too warm, but mainly crap service. Would never return; ultimate win was the company I kept while there.

By: Mark Dudlik

Mark Dudlik — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:38:29 +0000

I (as usual) watched the event from the streaming, which was really well done again too. It is a shame that the Mayor and Councilwoman were so adamant about promoting Tempe instead of promoting phx metro community building. Its even more of a shame that you are at the TCA again for Ignite #5, because it seems like you are going to need even more space next time! Great speeches (minus that one guy) and great efforts by all, really glad to have been able to e-attend. Great great work.